The former costars reflected on the ABC drama while chatting about their recent TV projects.

Scandal stars Kerry Washington and Tony Goldwyn think Olivia and Fitz are still together — and in couples therapy

The former costars reflected on the ABC drama while chatting about their recent TV projects.

By Tiffany Kelly

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- *Scandal* costars Kerry Washington and Tony Goldwyn reunited for *Variety*'s Actors on Actors series.

- The pair, who had a steamy on-screen romance on the ABC drama, chatted about their recent TV roles and reflected on working together.

- Washington recently starred on *Imperfect Women*, while Goldwyn starred on *Hacks* and *Law & Order*.

Someone alert the media: Olivia and Fitz are having a one-on-one talk.

Kerry Washington and Tony Goldwyn, who costarred on Shonda Rhimes’ ABC drama *Scandal** *from 2012 to 2018, reunited for *Variety*’s Actors on Actors* *series on June 6.

While the pair discussed their recent TV projects —Washington on *Imperfect Women* and Goldwyn on *Hacks* and *Law & Order* —they also made time to reflect on their steamy on-screen relationship.

"People are so passionate about Olitz, still," Washington said. "Also, have you noticed this thing online where some people are like, 'Now that I’m older and I watch the relationship, I’m not sure how healthy it is.' Have you seen any of that?"

Goldwyn was surprised, replying, "They’re just figuring that out? Interesting!"

"They weren’t the healthiest couple. That doesn’t mean they weren’t madly in love, but they had some difficulties, which is why people loved it," she said.

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On the series, which ran for seven seasons, Washington played fixer Olivia Pope, opposite Goldwyn's President Fitzgerald "Fitz" Grant. Olivia worked on Fitz's presidential campaign, and when we first meet her, she's already left her position as director of communications at the White House. (Of course, her connection with the POTUS was a reason!)

Despite the ups and downs, the actors think Olivia and Fitz are still together. "I feel that what we had at the root of it was very real, and it’s why we could never get away from it — as opposed to being something that was ultimately dysfunctional. I thought ultimately these two people were their answer to each other," Goldwyn suggested.

Washington said she believes that they are in couples therapy.

"Yes, regularly!" Goldwyn agreed. "Because they know that’s what they have to do to survive. But I think Fitz spent some time in Vermont. He needed to get out of the toxic patterns. ... But I feel like he was very supportive of her trajectory — whether she became president of the United States or whatever her thing was, I feel like his real jones was to help this woman be, like … her best self."

Olivia and Fitz's on-again-off-again romance was a standout element of the series, especially since the actors had great chemistry.

Tony Goldwyn and Kerry Washington on 'Scandal'.

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"What was funny immediately was we just vibed as people and actors," Goldwyn told ** in 2025.

"Yeah, instant friends," Washington agreed.

The actors have remained in touch since the show ended, often tagging each other on social media posts. Earlier this year, Washington called Goldwyn on an episode of *Call Her Daddy* to chat about their intimate scenes together.

Tony Goldwyn and Kerry Washington on 'Scandal'.

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